3 in 1 Refutation
(1) The
Jewish Scientists confirm Islam's claims about Adam was 90 feet tall
(2)
Muhammad and the 90 feet tall Adam
(3) Were Men Really 60 Cubits Tall?
By:
Shahid Bin Waheed شاهد
بن وحيد
بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
الحمدلله رب العالمين والصلوة والسلام على اشرف الانبياء
وسيدالمرسلين نبينا محمد صل ا لله عليه وعلى آله واصحابه وازواجه اجمعين - امابعد
Thanks to be Allaah, Sustainer of the Universe, and blessing and salutation to be the most distinguish of the Messengers and foremost among the Prophets, our Prophet Muhammad, peace and blessings of Allaah be on him and on his wives, children and Companions.
In the following refutation I will inSha Allaah refute three absurd articles authored by five individuals. Before I proceed I must again assert that I strictly adhere to Glorious Qur’aan and Sunnah (including Ahadeeth). Thus, this refutation by no means denies and/or question Hadeeth literature or Ahadeeth in question. I believe them all with their entirety.
Background:
This all started by a claim made by Murtadd Osama Abdallah (to be exact Osama Abd al-Shaitaan), an ideological loser as well. Murtadd Osama’s rhetoric was immediately responded by Jochan Katz (of website answering-islam”). Immediately right after Katz posted his lengthy response Sufi website “Bismika Allahuma” responded to Jochan Katz with their declaration of victory. Shibli Zaman & Mohd Elfie Nieshaem Juferi [MENJ] team members of Sufi website Bismika Allahuma came in defense Murtadd Osama. But did they bail Murtadd Osama out or they shot themselves in the feet? Readers can access the trinity of absurdness by clicking on the following links:
The Jewish Scientists confirm Islam's claims about Adam was 90 feet tall
Muhammad and the 90 feet tall Adam.
Were Men Really 60 Cubits Tall?
The Jewish Scientists confirm Islam's claims about Adam was 90 feet tall
I don’t concern myself about the claim made by Murtadd Osama Abdallah (regarding Jewish scientist). However, readers must notice the Kufr and hypocrisy of Murtadd Osama Abdallah in the following few examples (not all):
1. Murtadd Osama Abdallah want to correct Glorious Qur’aan using the Bible, so all problems can be fixed, to read click here.
2. Murtadd Osama Abdallah is troubled with false Hadeeth and/or Hadeeth problems, to read click here.
3. Murtadd Osama Abdallah claims {استغفرالله}, to read click on Prophet Muhammad's wrong/false interpretations of the Noble Quran!
Those who oppose and/or respond Murtadd Osama Abdallah
and/or disagree with him, are subject to insults and attacks (few examples),
click on any to read:
This very brief account
conclusively proves that (a) Murtadd
Osama Abdallah has problem with Glorious Qur’aan and he want to fix those
alleged problems of Glorious Qur’aan using Bible (b)
Murtadd Osama Abdallah believes and preaches that {استغفرالله}
Prophet Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم has wrongfully and/or falsely interpreted
the Glorious Qur’aan (c) Murtadd Osama
Abdallah has serious problem with Hadeeth. And yet Murtadd Osama
Abdallah makes claims using Ahadeeth while deliberately stretching and/or
exaggerating and/or inventing the myths beyond the scope of the teachings of
the Glorious Qur’aan and Sunnah. Readers must notice that after that Murtadd
Osama Abdallah disappears conveniently and/or takes usual time off allowing
anti-Islaam forces to mock and attack Islaam and Muslims. Isn’t it
sufficient enough to believe that Murtadd Osama Abdallah is working
with the enemies of Islaam?
Muhammad and the 90 feet tall Adam.
Let me respond to Jochan Katz, who has responded to Murtadd Osama Abdallah (I consider it to be an ultimate humiliation for Murtadd Osama Abdallah by the hands of disbeliever/s). However, I must refute Jochan Katz about his absurd and unintelligent comments regarding the Hadeeth in question. I like to emphasize that there is nothing wrong in the Hadeeth regarding the height of Adam عليه السلام. Let me begin by citing a Hadeeth,
“My Ummah shall never collectively agree upon error.”
Jochan Katz in his response to Murtadd Osama Abdallah, found the Hadeeth to be unbelievable and something borrowed by Prophet Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم from Judaism, how convenient but absurd? Perhaps, everyone has copied and pasted the Hadeeth from the Internet; however, this Hadeeth is found in both Sahihain i.e. Sahih Bukhari and Sahih Muslim, thus, there is no doubt in the authenticity of this Hadeeth with tawatur تواتر from different chains of narrators. We find this Hadeeth in Sahih Bukhari in The Book of the Stories of the Prophets and the other Ahadeeth quoted/questioned by Jochan Katz are found in The Book of the Beginning of Creation {In original Bukhari there are 4:543; and 4:486-69} Whereas, in Sahih Muslim these Ahadeeth are found in The Book of Paradise {1957-58}.
How reliable are the means through the teachings of the Prophet Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم have reached Muslims is a very detail subject of study. One can find a vast collection of literature on the subject of Hadeeth and Asma ‘ur Rijal (names and character of men). However, this is something alien to Christianity and Jochan Katz, since they both cannot produce anything about their sham god Jesus, let alone his disciples etc. Readers can certainly enlighten themselves by clicking here and here. The erroneous assertion by Jochan Katz that these Ahadeeth about the height of Adam عليه السلام and/or about the brightness on the faces of the Believers (Muslims) are against reason can easily be countered by stating that it is an established fact that everything that is astonishing cannot be against reason, nor can every such thing be called impossible the causes of which have not been understood. One may call such thing improbable, extraordinary or astonishing etc., but to call it impossible is itself unreasonable. Let me point out that it is beyond comprehension of a man who is unfamiliar with science and technology that how a wireless cellular phone and/or walkie-talkie carries the voice of a person thousands of miles away. Or how a person can be seen live on TV thousands of miles away etc. At this day and age (even in America) there are people who may refuse to accept this fact, if they are told this fact. But this does not make hearing that sound against reason or impossible. Divine revelation (Wahi Matlu and Ghayr Matlu) to the Prophets begins at the point where intellectual power fails; Prophet Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم is not any exception. In fact, he is far better and superior than all former Prophets عليهم السلام combined. Jochan Katz’s dilemma is that he is trying to fathom these Ahadeeth merely by his intellect not to mention spreading his confusion to the masses. Jochan Katz must understand that without Divine revelation and/or inspiration and/or Prophethood, human reasoning and intellect could never have perceived the realities of Resurrection and Hereafter, accountability and reckoning, Paradise and Hell, angels etc. Also if these things could have been known to men by intellect alone, than there was no need to send Prophets عليهم السلام along with the divine revelations and/or scriptures to them. Thus, if we believe in Wahy وحى and Prophethood, we must have to also believe that through them we would know many such things as could not be known through intellect and reason alone.
The
Glorious Qur’aan has provided a comprehensive definition of Imaan ايمان in Ayaah 3 of Surah Al-Baqarah,
Surah Al-Baqarah 3
Who believe in the Ghaib {1} and perform As-Salāt (Iqāmat-as-Salāt), {2} and spend out of what We have provided for them (i.e. give Zakāt {3} , spend on themselves, their parents, their children, their wives, etc., and also give charity to the poor and also in Allāh’s Cause - Jihād).
{1} (V.2: 3): Al-Ghaib: literally means a thing not seen. But this word includes vast meanings: Belief in Allāh, Angels, Holy Books, Allāh’s Messengers, Day of Resurrection and Al-Qadar (Divine Pre-ordainments). It also includes what Allāh and His Messenger صلى الله عليه وسلم informed about the knowledge of the matters of past, present, and future e.g., news about the creation of the heavens and earth, botanical and zoological life, the news about the nations of the past, and about Paradise and Hell.
{2} (V.2: 3): Iqāmat-as-Salāt إقامة الصلاة: The performance of Salāt (prayers). It means that: a) Each and every Muslim, male or female, is obliged to offer his Salāt (prayers) regularly five times a day at the specified times; the male in a mosque in congregation and the female at home. As the Prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم has said: "Order your children for Salāt (prayers) at the age of seven and beat them (about it) at the age of ten." The chief (of a family, town, tribe, etc.) and the Muslim rulers of a country are held responsible before Allāh in case of non-fulfillment of this obligation by the Muslims under their authority. b) One must offer the Salāt (prayers) as the Prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم used to offer them with all their rules and regulations, i.e., standing, bowing, prostrating, sitting, as he صلى الله عليه وسلم has said: "Offer your Salāt (prayers) the way you see me offering them (see Sahih Al-Bukhāri, Vol.1, H. No. 604 and Vol.9, H. No. 352)." (For the characteristics of the Salāt (prayer) of the Prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم see Sahih Al-Bukhāri, Vol.1, H. No. 702, 703, 704, 723, 786, 787].
{3} (V.2: 3) Zakāt زكاة: A certain fixed proportion of the wealth and of each and every kind of property liable to Zakāt of a Muslim to be paid yearly for the benefit of the poor in the Muslim community. The payment of Zakāt is obligatory as it is one of the five pillars of Islām. Zakāt is the major economic means for establishing social justice and leading the Muslim society to prosperity and security. (See Sahih Al- Bukhāri, Vol. 2, Book of Zakāt, No. 24]
يُؤْمِنُونَ بِالْغَيْبِ ( Believe in
the unseen) in the terminology of Islaamic Shariah, signifies accepting
with complete certitude the statement made by Prophet Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم
out of one’s total confidence and trust in him and without need of
personal observation. The word Ghaib
غيب lexically denotes things
that are not known to man in an evident manner and/or which are not
apprehensible through the five senses.
Thus, mere denial on part of Jochan
Katz is not a proof that these Ahadeeth are incorrect or contains something
impossible. Since Jochan Katz is the denier, therefore, burden of proof
is on him to present evidence to the contrary. I demand that Jochan Katz
present the explicit and conclusive evidence about the following:
Readers perhaps can understand the confusion of Jochan Katz by pondering upon Genesis 3:9 that I quote: 3:9 And the LORD God called unto Adam, and said unto him, Where art thou? The God of the Bible has to be told about the whereabouts of Adam, this is the same God who is claimed to be all-knowing and all-seeing. Since the God of the Bible (and for Jochan Katz it is Jesus) is clueless, imagine how clueless Jochan Katz would be?
Were Men Really 60 Cubits Tall?
In a hollow attempt to do the damage repair and defend their brother {Murtadd Osama Abdallah} Shibli Zaman & Mohd Elfie Nieshaem Juferi [MENJ] of Sufi website “Bismika Allahuma” presented us the evidence that:
1. Shibli Zaman & Mohd Elfie Nieshaem Juferi [MENJ] are deniers of Glorious Qur’aan.
2. Shibli Zaman & Mohd Elfie Nieshaem Juferi [MENJ] hardly possesses knowledge of Deen-ul-Islaam.
3. Shibli Zaman & Mohd Elfie Nieshaem Juferi [MENJ] love to declare victory for nothing.
Let
me put the real teeth where there has been only the lip service:
In their response to Jochan
Katz, Shibli Zaman & Mohd Elfie Nieshaem Juferi [MENJ] said:
When Adam (P) fell from grace, he was given a worldly decrease in stature which mankind is still upon to this day. Thus, this hadīth states that when humans enter Paradise again, they will return to that heavenly tall stature.
The statement “When Adam (P) fell from grace” is outright contrary to the Glorious Qur’aan and/or Islaamic aqeedah. But Shibli Zaman & Mohd Elfie Nieshaem Juferi [MENJ] have no problem with denying Glorious Qur’aan and Islaamic aqeedah to defend Murtadd Osama Abdallah, beside their attempt to win at any cost even if they have to lie and/or deceive and/or utter Kufr. We read in the Glorious Qur’aan 2:33 that Allaah (SWT) decided to create Adam عليه السلام and to make him His deputy on the earth (spoke of it to the angels). The Glorious Qur’aan says that Satan brought them (Adam and Hawwa {AS}) of the state they had been living. In fact, they were brought out under a divine command, since Satan served as a means and/or intermediary; the action has been attributed to him (Satan). Readers must understand that the words of the Glorious Qur’aan do not in the least imply that Satan had any power whatsoever to act on his own. What Shibli Zaman & Mohd Elfie Nieshaem Juferi [MENJ] are not aware of or they concealed this that according to Islaamic aqeedah and/or Glorious Qur’aan all Prophets عليهم السلام are innocent of all sins. Thus, descending of Adam عليه السلام from Paradise to Earth was not a punishment, it was rather a fulfillment of Allaah’s Will to establish a خليفه on earth. But it is beyond me that why Shibli Zaman & Mohd Elfie Nieshaem Juferi [MENJ] have used the Judeo-Christian belief and/or why both believes in it? Nonetheless, they have used it! Another thing that I have found to be highly questionable and without supporting evidence and/or authority is the statement that I quote: “he was given a worldly decrease in stature”, it will be appropriate to ask Shibli Zaman & Mohd Elfie Nieshaem Juferi [MENJ] to present the evidence for the sake of readers information.
Shibli Zaman & Mohd Elfie Nieshaem Juferi [MENJ] goes on to say that I quote:
“Hence we have successfully refuted the 20+ pages of missionary's inconsequential diatribe,”
Questions:
Conclusion!
The Ahadeeth in question are true and whatever Prophet Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم said is vouched by Allaah (SWT) and Glorious Qur’aan. At many places in the Glorious Qur’aan we read that:
·
Prophet Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم
did not say anything of his own.
·
Prophet Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم did not lie and/or does not lie.
·
Prophet Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم
did not speak of his own.
·
Prophet Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم
did not err.
·
We don’t find such testimonies
in the Christian Bible for their sham god “Jesus” & we don’t find that his
alleged “father”
is vouching for him either.
·
Adam عليه السلام
was 60 cubits tall at the time he
was created and any absurd and/or idiotic scientific so-called evidence cannot
deny this fact. Because scientists can’t even explain and/or answer one simple
question i.e. how the life began on the
Planet earth?
·
Science and/or scientists
tell us that the theory of evolution is true, which ironically has two distinct
aspects. One is its theory and the other is its cause. The theory of evolution
is said to be a certainty, whereas the cause of evolution is as yet unknown. How it is possible for a concept to be believed with such
certainty when the causes are UNKNOWN?
·
How imbecilic it is that Jochan
Katz has demanded scientific evidence and/or has
used science to question something DIVINE, which is beyond the scope of
science, nevertheless, Jochan Katz, conveniently ignored
the need of scientific evidence to support Jesus’ alleged miracle birth (without
father) and the scientific evidence to support Jesus died and rose from
dead and then ascend to heaven?
Sunday, March 21, 2004
Also read: 360 Joints or the
IGNORANCE of Jochan Katz & Osama Abdallah
Update! Friday, May 28, 2004
Al-Hamdu-Lillah,
today Murtadd-e-Azam
Osama Abdallah of website “answering-christianity.com” has conceded his defeat and removed the perjurious
articles full of false claims of so-called “scientific proofs.” However, rather admitting his own false claims,
forgeries and perjuries, Murtadd-e-Azam
Osama Abdallah has chosen as usual to
blame the Ahadeeth. This loser’s concede and decision to remove the articles
can be accessed by clicking on [a]
and [b].